"FB allows pedophiles to find eachother and kids via social graph with easy transition to Messenger. WA does not make it easy to make social connections, meaning making Messenger e2ee will be far, far worse than anything we have seen/gotten a glimpse of on WA."

Andrea Saul: "Hi Antigone! I'm going to start putting some thoughts together re: planning for encryption. While obviously real-world harm is the biggest risk, from a reputational standpoint, would you agree with these risks? Anything I'm missing?" Andrea Saul: "1. CSER removal numbers will drastically go down, especially for CT and CEICEIChild Exploitative ImageryMeta's policy and enforcement category for imagery that sexually exploits children, tracked separately from Minor Sexualization and from Inappropriate Interactions with Children. The source document has executives weighing whether to limit the CEI figure published in the Community Standards Enforcement Report to Facebook only, "to avoid a step-change some time in the future when we lose access to private messaging", at a point when by their own estimate "almost 90%" of egregious CEI content was on Messenger.Full entry ↗ 2. Referrals to LE will drastically decrease, especially for CT, CEI and grooming 1. For CT: 98% of our proactive LE referrals depend on Messenger content 3. Our ability to comply with LE requests will drastically decrease across the board. This is higher risk for CT, CEI, and grooming as well as other potential criminal cases 4. Groups like ISIS view this messaging system as the most useful for their core operation. Groomers have unfettered access to young people." Antigone Davis: "These may be captured within what you have: NCMEC reports will drop dramatically, these are reported to Congress, there will be policymaker follow up. The quality and value of our reports to NCMEC will drop dramatically, rendering them close to useless. FB allows pedophiles to find eachother and kids via social graph with easy transition to Messenger. WA does not make it easy to make social connections, meaning making Messenger e2ee will be far, far worse than anything we have seen/gotten a glimpse of on WA. Our safety organizations and experts, especially NCMEC and Thorn, have helped us manage so many policymaker and press fires. I know there is this sense that they haven't been there for us but they have helped shorten our fires. (think NCII fire) and they have helped us land and defend things like Messenger Kids. We will lose them. They will abandon us and they will speak out against us. What we gain on the side of privacy we will lose on the side of safety. Honestly, I'd love if we did some hard core research to understand what we need to deliver on the privacy side to get our reputation back -- maybe there are other things we could do, most people don't even understand e2ee. Let's understand what they really want :) On the diminished value of the NCMEC reports, this will hurt our rel with LE and NCMEC's rel with LE." Andrea Saul: "Thank you so much. And yes, to sum up, this is going to suck." Antigone Davis: "We will mange because we have to; maybe we will even find brilliant integrity solutions :)" Andrea Saul: "Thats what I'm hoping for!"