Meta & Children's Online SafetyChat: targetting 11 year olds feels like tobacco companies a couple decades ago (and today)
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Case 4:22-md-03047-YGR Document 2758-13 Filed 02/20/26 Page 1 of 22 AMENDED Exhibit 299 PLAINTIFFS' OMNIBUS OPPOSITION TO DEFENDANTS' MOTIONS FOR SUMMARY JUDGMENT Case No.: 4:22-md-03047-YGR MDL No. 3047 In Re: Social Media Adolescent Addiction/Personal Injury Products Liability Litigation Case 4:22-md-03047-YGR Document 2758-13 Filed 02/20/26 Page 2 of 22 Message From: [/O=THEFACEBOOK/OU=EXTERNAL (FYDIBOHF25SPDLT)/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN= Sent: To: 5/5/2017 6:27:12 AM 1 Subject: Attachments: 17813930_621512224716392_1395838050_n.gif; 18280719_290397174739627_1842920057_n.jpg; Message summary [{"otherUserFbId":null,"threadFbId":1154204024676135}] 18302338_448922155445198_71683689_n.png; 18309058_10209281884549537_1614334909_n.png; 17619043_1866676073621545_1368338266_n.gif; 13705258_954188831373226_132644590_n.gif; 17813875_1519198301438397_856267973_n.gif; 18337333_1811963605789611_331243226_n.jpg; 18280959_1811999265786045_1045826690_n.png; 18336951_1812025795783392_1046918186_n.jpg; 18302435_1812028989116406_1307730024_n.jpg; 18302188_1812029039116401_40650608_n.jpg; 18302234_1812030699116235_523548721_n.jpg (5/04/2017 05:40:52 PDT): >I added the FBAnon question to the Q&A poll again (5/04/2017 05:41:00 PDT): >iunno if it was answered yet, I missed a few Q&As (5/04/2017 05:48:25 PDT): >it was decided that we weren't going to ask it. What was the reason? (5/04/2017 05:54:18 PDT): >People being too scared to ask it live? (5/04/2017 05:54:40 PDT): >Iunno I'm not in MPK (5/04/2017 07:27:59 PDT): >Management will never bring back FBAnon. (5/04/2017 08:17:44 PDT): >it's too bad (5/04/2017 08:17:46 PDT): >it was a magical place (5/04/2017 08:41:29 PDT): >Welcome Joel to the last remnants of what used to be fbanon. (5/04/2017 08:41:53 PDT): >Others can add you to the political chat if that's your cup of tea HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL (COMPETITOR) META3047MDL-072-00304285 Case 4:22-md-03047-YGR Document 2758-13 Filed 02/20/26 Page 3 of 22 (5/04/2017 08:41:54 PDT): >\o/ (5/04/2017 08:42:13 PDT): >If it's US-centric I'll stay away, otherwise sure (5/04/2017 08:55:00 PDT): >Welcome Joel! (5/04/2017 09:35:58 PDT): >Jays post about Referrals pivoted to people complaining about the referral process being a negative experience for candidates and employees :0 (5/04/2017 09:36:30 PDT): >hi welcome (5/04/2017 09:46:25 PDT): >Gabriel That is true tho (5/04/2017 09:46:27 PDT): >link? (5/04/2017 09:46:37 PDT): >It sometimes takes forever (5/04/2017 09:46:49 PDT): >Statuses don't update (5/04/2017 09:47:14 PDT): >last time I had to straight up relay messages from the recruiter to my friend because nothing was happening (5/04/2017 09:47:54 PDT): >and then he never showed up in the tool because reasons, not even sure if i would have gotten the euro euro bills if he was hired (5/04/2017 09:58:21 PDT): >Almost every time I've referred somebody, something has gone wrong (5/04/2017 09:58:38 PDT): >And every time, the recruiter acts like this is a special case and it never happens (5/04/2017 09:58:55 PDT): >Same here! It's so frustrating (5/04/2017 09:59:23 PDT): >I've almost given up unless it's a really strong candidate and now I sell the hiring manager on it first before putting in the referral. So they end up pushing for it too (5/04/2017 09:59:26 PDT): >(In Seattle) fuck it's hot today! It might even be above 60! (5/04/2017 09:59:36 PDT): >I reconsidered wearing my sweater (5/04/2017 09:59:51 PDT): >101 (5/04/2017 09:59:54 PDT): >it was almost 80 yesterday (5/04/2017 10:00:07 PDT): >Like I'd really commit such a fashion disaster as showing people my forearms (5/04/2017 10:00:10 PDT): >i could actually feel my skin burn for the first time in many many months (5/04/2017 10:00:27 PDT): >I'd get an HR writeup for making an arousing work environment (5/04/2017 10:01:11 PDT): >I referred an Eng manager. The recruiter suggested that she interview as a high IC and transition to manager once she got here. Then she failed the phone screen because she didn't know PHP well enough for a high IC position: -P (5/04/2017 10:01:29 PDT): >Guh (5/04/2017 10:01:35 PDT): >Left hand, meet right hand HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL (COMPETITOR) META3047MDL-072-00304286 Case 4:22-md-03047-YGR Document 2758-13 Filed 02/20/26 Page 4 of 22 (5/04/2017 10:02:14 PDT): >I referred my phd scientist friend who does stat analysis on populations and how stuff psychologically effects them. (5/04/2017 10:02:22 PDT): >Was told we don't hire people like that (5/04/2017 10:02:56 PDT): >We damn well should (5/04/2017 10:03:01 PDT): >I escalated three times (5/04/2017 10:03:09 PDT): >Well, I guess I'm not that sure we need that (5/04/2017 10:03:13 PDT): >people who think about psychological effects? (5/04/2017 10:03:16 PDT): >nah (5/04/2017 10:03:19 PDT): >But I'm surprised we don't have sociologists (5/04/2017 10:03:30 PDT): >Assuming that's the kind of person you mean (5/04/2017 10:03:46 PDT): >Also surprising that we don't have a chief economist (5/04/2017 10:03:46 PDT): >I do know of one psych PhD who works here (5/04/2017 10:04:03 PDT): >Social psych I think. Not my field so that might make as much sense as "data bash rust engineer" (5/04/2017 10:04:29 PDT): >i wish we had someone who could say "bombarding women with a message on how to become pretty multiple times per day is bad for their mental health" (5/04/2017 10:04:38 PDT): >not good for the company though (5/04/2017 10:05:08 PDT): >But it's good for our financial health. That's proven over a century. (5/04/2017 10:05:08 PDT): >Showing car ads is bad for the earth. (5/04/2017 10:05:11 PDT): >"making these messages about how to become pretty look like they're supported from your friends is even worse" (5/04/2017 10:05:19 PDT): >Allowing republicans to show ads is bad for liberals (5/04/2017 10:05:26 PDT): >Referrals are horrible here. I've had problems with every referral, including a guy with his Masters in CS, way more accomplishments than me, published papers (I have zero), worked as a PE for years, but he's not technically competent enough for an initial phone screen. (5/04/2017 10:05:42 PDT): >Lots of things would be different if the majority of the company gave a shit about their values and not just here to get those stacks bruh (5/04/2017 10:05:52 PDT): >yep (5/04/2017 10:06:01 PDT): >Aye (5/04/2017 10:06:05 PDT): >Indeed (5/04/2017 10:06:59 PDT): >The conclusion of such an investigation may be to shut the site down HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL (COMPETITOR) META3047MDL-072-00304287 Case 4:22-md-03047-YGR Document 2758-13 Filed 02/20/26 Page 5 of 22 (5/04/2017 10:07:13 PDT): >[character not printed in filing] (5/04/2017 10:07:19 PDT): >Last night I was watching a show on craftsmen in Kyoto and it made me realize I haven't been proud of any of the work I've done here. (5/04/2017 10:07:23 PDT): >let me reach my cliff first (5/04/2017 10:07:28 PDT): >I was proud of the things I made at Apple. (5/04/2017 10:07:31 PDT): >99% of posts are people talking about how beautiful they are and their vacations יין (5/04/2017 10:07:34 PDT): >i was proud of things i did at google for sure (5/04/2017 10:07:49 PDT): >coming in to the "lets try to copy snapchat as hard as possible" team definitely didn't help (5/04/2017 10:08:08 PDT): >I'm proud of some things I've done technically (5/04/2017 10:08:22 PDT): >And the fact that I've kept my job here for four years (5/04/2017 10:08:42 PDT): >The consequences of fb, I'm not so sure about (5/04/2017 10:08:46 PDT): >im kind of worried how people are going to look at me when i look for my next job when they see i worked at facebook tbh (5/04/2017 10:08:50 PDT): >I still think it's a good for the world in general (5/04/2017 10:09:01 PDT): >I think FB is a net positive for the world (5/04/2017 10:09:10 PDT): >But there is truth to what people on hn say (5/04/2017 10:09:21 PDT): >Connectedness is a good thing (5/04/2017 10:09:36 PDT): >what does that even mean though (5/04/2017 10:09:40 PDT): >But having it centralized and ad supported might not be (5/04/2017 10:09:44 PDT): >any other company by the time they reach our size has very real questions about their effect (5/04/2017 10:09:54 PDT): >not that we shouldn't keep thinking about it (5/04/2017 10:10:24 PDT): >Facebook as a diary that uses psychological triggers to keep me as a author is a positive force (5/04/2017 10:10:26 PDT): >If only the incentives and network effects were in place for things like diaspora to take hold (5/04/2017 10:10:28 PDT): >i spent 5 years at google and had my questions about privacy and surveillance but i never felt i was making people's mental health deteriorate slowly and over time (5/04/2017 10:10:45 PDT): >I have almost zero pictures or notes of my life pre-Facebook (5/04/2017 10:11:03 PDT): >all my pictures are on google photos, you know, a place where i can store my photos privately (5/04/2017 10:11:19 PDT): >and doesn't try to trick me int sharing them publically every day HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL (COMPETITOR) META3047MDL-072-00304288 Case 4:22-md-03047-YGR Document 2758-13 Filed 02/20/26 Page 6 of 22 (5/04/2017 10:11:31 PDT): >pre-facebook was pre-cameraphone (5/04/2017 10:11:54 PDT): >Google photos has "X years ago today" and other features that were borrowed from Facebook. ☑ (5/04/2017 10:12:17 PDT): >But yeah there is a lot of overlap now (5/04/2017 10:12:19 PDT): >wait did you just say facebook invented x years ago today? (5/04/2017 10:12:36 PDT): >No, we probably borrowed it from someone else (5/04/2017 10:12:38 PDT): >timehop (5/04/2017 10:13:19 PDT): >just saying you can't attribute having digital artifacts to facebook rather than having a camera in your pocket every day (5/04/2017 10:14:06 PDT): >I wouldn't caption the photos and discuss them without FB though (5/04/2017 10:14:18 PDT): >They would be a collection of pictures that I never looked at again (5/04/2017 10:14:36 PDT): >I bet 99.99% of google photos can go in cold storage (5/04/2017 10:15:10 PDT): >99% of all photos can (5/04/2017 10:15:30 PDT): >the one thing i wish they would do is dedupe (5/04/2017 10:15:36 PDT): >The other 1% are in Facebook (5/04/2017 10:15:41 PDT): >At least that's the product goal (5/04/2017 10:15:55 PDT): >how often do you scroll back in fb? probably as much as i scroll back in gp (5/04/2017 10:16:02 PDT): >like 2-3 times a year (5/04/2017 10:17:08 PDT): >I get the "X years ago today" almost daily (5/04/2017 10:17:48 PDT): >I never understood why we backed off so hard on scientific psychology and sociology research after the social contagion study. I think we have an unprecedented opportunity to contribute to research in both fields which is arguably a million times more important than making the world more connected. (5/04/2017 10:19:41 PDT): >It's scary for a Comp yang to have that power and it may lead to "regulatory risk" (5/04/2017 10:20:50 PDT): >oh good, we're going after <13 year olds now? (5/04/2017 10:21:12 PDT): >zuck has been talking about that for a while (5/04/2017 10:21:37 PDT): >yeah it was gross the last time he mentioned it (5/04/2017 10:21:38 PDT): >I'm not streaming the all hands (missed the first 20 mins, and now I figure I should just watch the recording). worth watching then it seems? (5/04/2017 10:21:49 PDT): >i just tuned in too (5/04/2017 10:21:58 PDT): >but my friends are... less than excited about the ideas HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL (COMPETITOR) META3047MDL-072-00304289 Case 4:22-md-03047-YGR Document 2758-13 Filed 02/20/26 Page 7 of 22 (5/04/2017 10:22:28 PDT): >@Mike someone commented in the Lori's gender bias post if we could explore getting high school teenage girls as interns (5/04/2017 10:22:38 PDT): >:| (5/04/2017 10:22:41 PDT): >hahaha. link? (5/04/2017 10:23:02 PDT): >im ok with hiring people, but targetting 11 year olds feels like tobacco companies a couple decades ago (and today) (5/04/2017 10:23:16 PDT): >like we're seriously saying "we have to hook them young" here (5/04/2017 10:23:58 PDT): >https://fb.facebook.com/groups/e/permalink/1466622773393901/?comment_id=1468740833182095 I'm sure it was a harmless comment, just thought it was funny shared: http://www.facebook.com/449949138693181 (5/04/2017 10:23:59 PDT): >well, to be fair, a lot of other services trying to compete with facebook explicitly target under-13's and create plausible deniability for knowing their age (5/04/2017 10:24:25 PDT): >yep, doesn't make it any better (5/04/2017 10:24:27 PDT): >he has a point anyway. I think he meant like, are we looking into ways to get more women interested in STEM from earlier in the pipe than college, which is a valid question to ask (5/04/2017 10:24:42 PDT): >won't we get sued due to COPPA or whatever? (5/04/2017 10:24:57 PDT): >explicitly called out (5/04/2017 10:25:10 PDT): >as being a challenge for regulatory reasons related to age verification and parental consent (5/04/2017 10:25:53 PDT): >that intern program is not a bad idea at all. theres a big diffference between trying to bring other demographics into good jobs vs trying to get a billion 11 year olds sharing selfies (5/04/2017 10:26:13 PDT): >can't wait to see the leaks on this one (5/04/2017 10:26:35 PDT): >pssh that post already leaked days ago (5/04/2017 10:26:38 PDT): >yeah this will be bad (5/04/2017 10:26:43 PDT): shared: 17813930_621512224716392_1395838050_n.gif (5/04/2017 10:27:14 PDT): >i thought i couldn't be less inspired than "lets copy snapchat" but they've managed to really outdo themselves here (5/04/2017 10:27:57 PDT): >i meant the leaks on this all-hands not the post (5/04/2017 10:28:07 PDT): >"Facebook wants to hook 10 year olds" thanks guardian (5/04/2017 10:29:16 PDT): >did he just accidentally say "recrap" instead of "recap" (5/04/2017 10:30:49 PDT): shared: 18280719_290397174739627_1842920057_n.jpg (5/04/2017 10:30:50 PDT): >[pages 8–22 fully redacted in filing] HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL (COMPETITOR) META3047MDL-072-00304290 Case 4:22-md-03047-YGR Document 2758-13 Filed 02/20/26 Page 8 of 22 HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL (COMPETITOR) META3047MDL-072-00304291 Case 4:22-md-03047-YGR Document 2758-13 Filed 02/20/26 Page 9 of 22 HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL (COMPETITOR) META3047MDL-072-00304292 Case 4:22-md-03047-YGR Document 2758-13 Filed 02/20/26 Page 10 of 22 HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL (COMPETITOR) META3047MDL-072-00304293 Case 4:22-md-03047-YGR Document 2758-13 Filed 02/20/26 Page 11 of 22 HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL (COMPETITOR) META3047MDL-072-00304294 Case 4:22-md-03047-YGR Document 2758-13 Filed 02/20/26 Page 12 of 22 HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL (COMPETITOR) META3047MDL-072-00304295 Case 4:22-md-03047-YGR Document 2758-13 Filed 02/20/26 Page 13 of 22 HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL (COMPETITOR) META3047MDL-072-00304296 Case 4:22-md-03047-YGR Document 2758-13 Filed 02/20/26 Page 14 of 22 HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL (COMPETITOR) META3047MDL-072-00304297 Case 4:22-md-03047-YGR Document 2758-13 Filed 02/20/26 Page 15 of 22 HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL (COMPETITOR) META3047MDL-072-00304298 Case 4:22-md-03047-YGR Document 2758-13 Filed 02/20/26 Page 16 of 22 HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL (COMPETITOR) META3047MDL-072-00304299 Case 4:22-md-03047-YGR Document 2758-13 Filed 02/20/26 Page 17 of 22 HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL (COMPETITOR) META3047MDL-072-00304300 Case 4:22-md-03047-YGR Document 2758-13 Filed 02/20/26 Page 18 of 22 HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL (COMPETITOR) META3047MDL-072-00304301 Case 4:22-md-03047-YGR Document 2758-13 Filed 02/20/26 Page 19 of 22 HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL (COMPETITOR) META3047MDL-072-00304302 Case 4:22-md-03047-YGR Document 2758-13 Filed 02/20/26 Page 20 of 22 HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL (COMPETITOR) META3047MDL-072-00304303 Case 4:22-md-03047-YGR Document 2758-13 Filed 02/20/26 Page 21 of 22 HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL (COMPETITOR) META3047MDL-072-00304304 Case 4:22.md 03047 VCD Document 2758 12 Filed 02/20/26 Page 22 of 22 HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL (COMPETITOR) META3047MDL-072-00304305