Guy Rosen: "Should we consider limiting the CEICEIChild Exploitative ImageryMeta's policy and enforcement category for imagery that sexually exploits children, tracked separately from Minor Sexualization and from Inappropriate Interactions with Children. The source document has executives weighing whether to limit the CEI figure published in the Community Standards Enforcement Report to Facebook only, "to avoid a step-change some time in the future when we lose access to private messaging", at a point when by their own estimate "almost 90%" of egregious CEI content was on Messenger.Full entry ↗ number we put in CSER to FB only, to avoid a step-change some time in the future when we lose access to private messaging? I know we've already released the top line number in the newsroom post -- so maybe it is already too late. But putting it in the CSER, where in the future we'll have a chart and everything, feels more irreversible."
Vishwanath ████: "This is based on an old snapshot of only 2 months of data, but going by the same rate, we'd have a smaller number around 3M.
Just looking at egregious CEI content almost 90% of it is in messenger.
I need to think more about this, but given we already shared it in the newsroom post, I think sharing a different number in CSER may be risky. There is very little chance of us not getting asked about it and then we basically out how much is deleted on messenger versus fb and that may just cause push back ('Why is Facebook now allowing millions of pieces of CEI to be sent on messenger?') later when we want to actually encrypt. It boils down to do we defend this now or do we defend this later.
Additionally, I think we delete terrorist propaganda also (the numbers there are smaller), and now co-ordinating harm (re: Myanmar) as well.
On safety carveouts: I think most of this (probably all) is images/videos (need to check) and if we can carve those out from encryption due to safety concerns, I think we could manage in the long run. Between privacy and safety, I think this could be a balancing act, if possible."
Guy Rosen: "Of the hard choices, I think excluding Messenger in CSER starting now (across the board) might be the less bad option. It seems defensible: yes, we published the CEI number including Messenger one-off, but generally the on-going report is FB only right now."