Meta & Children's Online SafetyChat: is [Adam Mosseri] fucking nuts?
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Tuesday 2 November 2021
09:46Elizabeth CrenshawInterested in what u think about this
09:46████LOVE THIS
09:46████wbu?
09:46████realistically it won't stop the racists
09:46Elizabeth CrenshawI love the intent the language was kindaaaa weird
09:46Elizabeth Crenshawlike patronizing, so we're trying to update a bit
09:47████and will land badly if we're still not taking enough action
09:47████yes would def love us to be able to review the copy
09:51Elizabeth Crenshawyeah...ima take a closer look at this today and work on reactive etc
10:07████another qq i saw on the agenda yesterday that teen defaults are down for 11 nov what does that refer to?
10:58Elizabeth Crenshawsame thing i sent the photo of last week!!
10:58Elizabeth Crenshawlemme find
10:58████gah sorry
10:59Elizabeth Crenshawits ok lots of tings
10:59████in IG pals chat? i can look if so
10:59Elizabeth Crenshawyes!
10:59Elizabeth CrenshawShared an image
10:59████oh fuck yeh sorry!
10:59Elizabeth Crenshawi did ask on our pals call though what ppls preference was on announcing and when
11:00████hmmm prob when we announce take a break?
11:00████although these are pretty minor right
11:00Elizabeth Crenshawvery minor
11:00Elizabeth Crenshawwe were thinking about take a break but theyre pretty privacy focused
11:00Elizabeth Crenshawfeels kinda different
11:01████honestly these are like hygiene i wouldnt even announce, would just reference in our normal talking points
11:01Elizabeth Crenshawyeah we're going to create a little infographic/timeline of youth safety efforts that we were thinking we'd include them in
11:01████oh nice
11:02Elizabeth Crenshawand perhaps just give small heads up to a few reporters but nothing major
11:02Elizabeth Crenshawto ur point
11:04████id be slightly nervous about alerting reporters to the fact that these privacy settings were defaulted off before
11:05████also it occurred to me the other day we say 'there are lots of valid reasons why young people woudl have public accounts', and cite the example of creators/young entrepreneurs
11:05Elizabeth Crenshawyes we do
11:05████but wouldnt they have a creator/biz accounts, which are automatically public?
11:10Elizabeth Crenshawyes
11:10Elizabeth Crenshawbut still valid
11:10Elizabeth Crenshawi think???
11:11████it just made me think, then what example are we actually thinking of when we say there are lots of valid reason why young people would want/need a public PERSONAL account
11:12Elizabeth Crenshawwell some athletes and such still use personal accounts
11:12████i guess
11:12████just feels like we're then making the rules for those exceptions, versus deciding to err on safety and just say under 16 accounts on IG are private
11:13████the risk could then be if u16s then switched to professional accounts so they could have public accounts but im not sure how big a risk that is
11:14Elizabeth Crenshawi dont disagree
11:14Elizabeth Crenshawbut you know how contentious this change alone was
11:16████it's absolutely mad that it was so contentious
11:17████with adam or others too?
11:17████we will never get out of this mess if he/we're not just prepared to ERR ON THE SIDE OF SAFETY
11:17████jesus
11:17████i know i'm advocating for NOT letting them switch back but i don't get why defaulting into private was contentious, given they CAN just switch back!
11:17Elizabeth Crenshawit was mostly adam for sure
11:17Elizabeth Crenshawit was a huge growth hit
11:17Elizabeth Crenshawlike shockingly so
11:18████would he want any tom dick or harry being able to see all his kids' content, follow them etc? is he fucking nuts?
11:18████interesting
11:18████well not doing it for that reason would have been unforgivable so im glad we did!
11:19Elizabeth Crenshawi mean we did NOT do it for a very long period of time because of that
11:19Elizabeth Crenshawi agree though